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11-19-2007
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I agree with Troy, Froggy's Freezin fluid works great and that is what I use. But ya know, nothing works great when there is wind and for me it was windy on Halloween. No biggy, I'm just greatful that it wasn't raining.
Nancj,
I'm a little late on responding but water drainage for me has never been a problem. Like you say, the water just comes out of the outlet, if it's the reverse vortex configuration that is. I use about 35 pounds of quality ice in each 60 qt cube and no more than half the ice is gone after 3 hours using 700 lite F/X foggers set on medium to high. My Martin 800 watter didn't use much more ice.
Still one of the best effects that I've ever built and my 60 qt cubes will last forever!
At this time I'm thinking about nothing but eating some turkey and stuffing! Happy Holidays!
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11-19-2007
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Thanks Lunatic.
About Forggys Freezin fluid, is that found in the halloween shops, and does it cost more then the regular fog juice. also how big of a difference between the two is there if any.
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11-26-2007
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Nancj,
The Froggy's Fog Juice Fluid (aka Kool Fog) is about 22 bucks a gallon and cheaper in cases of 4 gallons or more. But with FedEx ground service it pushes it up to 31 bucks delivered. It is more expensive than the cheaper stuff that I can buy in the local party store. I did a side by side comparison last year and Froggy's did produce a denser fog that hugged the ground a little longer but it's not necessarily worth the extra money.
Can I honestly say that it's worth two or three times as much as the cheaper stuff? Hmmm, that is a tough question. I have heard that the cheaper low quality stuff may have debris in it that can clog your fogger. But, I've talked to people that use it and they just filter the fluid and never have a problem. I think for me using medium sized foggers(700 F/X) that cycle and the fact that I only use one gallon on Halloween, it's worth it to me to get the extra performance, especially if it's cold outside. If using a higher wattage continuously running fogger and if you live in a warmer area of the country it may not be necessary. Maybe someone else can give you a better answer. This is only my second year chilling fog so I'm pretty new at it. I'm sure you will agree that the most important thing is chilling the fog.  Happy Holidays!
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09-16-2008
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Cannot let this die
Since I created my new youtube Channel this week based on an old one, I organized my (9) DIY Vortex Style Igloo Ice Cube Cooler Fog Chiller how-to's, tests, sizes & modifications into one Playlist with detailed descriptions. I think it should be noted here for future reference and after all the time spent on this discussion in the past.
It also includes a video of the ghostofhalloween.com Trash can chiller option with the trash bag on the outlet real live Halloween T-o-T night functionality. (I forget who deep in this thread suggested it but it works!)
I also included the 400W Gemmy store-bought small chiller for comparison which I eventually took back and which started me on this Vortex Thread Odyssey once I saw the Igloo Ice Cube cooler when I was at Wal-Mart that fateful return day:
Here's the Playlist of videos:
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09-16-2008
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Lunatic
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Oh NO! Not the fog chiller thread of death! LOL! just kidding, glad to see you back, FZ!
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09-16-2008
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Lunatic
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Thanks for all the tests..So what is your conclusion for best setup?
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09-28-2008
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Daaaaaamb! Old thread!  I love the use of the the cat litter container, but does it keep the ice long enough? I'm sure the answer is in here somewhere, I just didn't feel like reading 81 pages.
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09-30-2008
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FZ,
Good for you for keeping this thread alive, it's an important one!
Corner Haunt,
People have used the kitty litter containers with success but logic suggests that an insulated cooler will keep the ice much longer. Depending on the size of the area your fogging and the wattage of your fogger the kitty litter container may be too small to hold enough ice without replenishing it often.
I use 60 qt coolers with 700 watt foggers and it lasts all halloween night without adding more ice. According to some particpants in this thread you can definitely use a smaller cooler with 400 watt fogger and get very good results. Good luck!
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09-30-2008
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not sure if this is in this giant thread, as I did not look at every page, but Make magazine 2007 halloween issue has some instructions for making a chiller with a trashcan and dryer hose...I'm going to build this one...not sure if the Halloween issue is still available, but it's available online (I think you have to register or subscribe) at http://www.makezine.com
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09-30-2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic
Corner Haunt,
People have used the kitty litter containers with success but logic suggests that an insulated cooler will keep the ice much longer. Depending on the size of the area your fogging and the wattage of your fogger the kitty litter container may be too small to hold enough ice without replenishing it often.
According to some particpants in this thread you can definitely use a smaller cooler with 400 watt fogger and get very good results. Good luck!
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Thanks. I wanted to know, because with 5 cats I have these buckets in a constant supply.
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